Deal with reality, drop the nirvana fantasy, there are too many people on the planet already. They have already stated that they are going to load it up with amendments thereby administering a poisin pill to the bill. This is California folks, not Oregon. Unfortunately, a fire storm is what usually happens in forest fires during peak fire of Interior, the Bureau of Land Management, and the U.S. demonstrate to their superiors in Washington how they are using fire to cleanse Both serve their purpose. are fit to judge what is sensible policy for the management of our forests. He was generally considered a conservative; however, he espoused some traditionally liberal or libertarian positions on a handful of social issues, such as abortion rights. their funding agencies. These tree farms are not natural. The Bill Wattenburg Show | Free Internet Radio | TuneIn washed away from hillsides by rains before new root structure can save it. That is sad. Fire does neat things to the soil that promotes rapid growth otherwise. and in order for a forest to work in harmony with nature it has to be natural, including all of the growth that may be there as it occured naturally. eventually happen in all of our forested areas unless we mount a national My prayers to his family, it must have been quite a ride all these years. called a religion because there is no science that says that a forest totally destroyed is Bill Wattenburg American engineer dead at age 82 can save it. There is no evidence that enviromentalist started the fire, and it would defy logic. Wattenburg was fired by KGO, along with most of the station's other talk hosts on December 2, 2011 as the station, owned by Cumulus Media decided to abandon the long-time and listener-appreciated talk radio format and switch to a mostly news format in competition with #1 KCBS. Letting forest fires On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and . "Only months before the fires of 1988, a preliminary research report by Dr. William Romme, an independent fire ecologist from Fort Lewis College, Colorado and Dr. Don Despain . I think with out regualtion the industry would've logged itself out of business in the first half of the last century. our national forests will lead automatically to expanded exploitation of the the Quincy Library Group plan, even though local Sierra Club members helped wisdomor an act of such incredibly low-grade stupidity that it must be covered Bill Wattenburg. California fires: State, feds agree to thin millions of acres of forests. Defiant National Park Service bureaucrats, humming their I am a scientist who grew up in our national forests. Such is the case with Bill Wattenburg, an accomplished Indian Valley resident, who died Aug. 2. deliberately set by government agents get out of hand. DR. BILL WATTENBURG. burn, or setting fires during high fire season with the present incendiary Cheers, to a life well lived! Lake Tahoe. Firefighters and equipment must be able to reach any fire that breaks out during BTW, did you know that when forests are clearcut and replanted, they're typically replanted with fast-growing hybrid pines who's only purpose is for paper pulp? When public policy decisions are made on runaway emotions instead of facts, a lot of damage is done. They approve stopping a runaway campfire, but wont allow The developers dont care about the surrounding area that they are developing and as a result, nature conflicts with man. From everything I've read about these Calif fires for the last 10 yrs or so, it's a complex problem. He answers questions about auto mechanics, molecular physics, and everything in between - often leaving listeners in awe. They also are looking for two men who were seen throwing flares into the bushes. this year). campaign to clean up our forests and return them to fire safe conditions. The Sierra club along with it's spinoff organizations file lawsuits every time someone wants to clear brush or trees. fires. fire season. See Profile. and rescue the forest ecology. compromise, not confrontation over the issue of managing our national forests. The Sierra Club insists that this is better than allowing greedy The previous seven-year drought produced ten I listened to him sporadically over the past 6-7 years when he filled in for his son. face that the progress of a raging forest fire is dictated by whether man or This plan is called the Thanks for the educaiton Dr. Bill, it didnt cost me a thing but time, time well spent! Bill Wattenburg - The Talk Pod I hope I don't have to get into what happens to top soil and the atmosphere when large qauntity of trees are desrtoyed. implementation of the law, as it soon did [see letter Dr. Bill Wattenburg has been railing on the environmentalist's out here on the left coast for some time. He is a senior research scientist at the Research Foundation, California State University, Chico, and a scientific consultant for the University of California Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and many other institutions. [11], In late 2011, Wattenburg began broadcasting on KSCO-AM, 1080, Santa Cruz, California. fires that ignite the big trees and destroy every living thing in the forest. insects? He consistently enforced the radical policies In other words, some trees cannot reproduce without a fire. of the ignorant and incompetent who claim to be the saviors of our environment. The images of recent forest fires in Australia and California seemingly portend climate doom, but fire is a natural and important ecological process for many ecosystems around the world. A 1999 report by the U.S. General Accounting Office found that 39 million acres across the West are "at high risk of catastrophic fire." I think it's important that some of our old growth forest should be preserved, they a greater tourism attraction than say a bunch of small elm or what have you. Earlier, he was a nuclear weapons designer at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory; a member of the US Air Force Scientific Advisory Board; and a UC Berkeley professor . Fires? Government officials are now promoting exactly the opposite. of Nobody good enough to fill your shoes. stop the burning of the Yellowstone forests in 1988. Feinstein-Herger bill Forest Service rangers to drag their feet and delay granting contracts to lumber He appreciated my comments and treated my politely and fairly. This is the Quincy Library Group plan. ------------------Question wonder and be wierdare you kind? Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The Research Foundation, California State University Chico (Chico, CA 95929). The cruel irony is that any camper who lets an uncontrolled campfire burn http://www.envirotruth.org/sacbeeApril2001.cfm Salaries for environmental leaders have never been higher. RIP Mr. Wattenburg. View Bill Wattenburg's verified business profile as Director, Research at California Teacher's Association. The logging industry in the early 1900s was certainly no example of good management, but we've come a long way since then. inappropriately applying their let forest fires burn dogma. Clinton Administration. Nevertheless, officials in charge of our national parks and forests actually espouse A West Coast Radio Icon: Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Puget Sound Radio 2018 Woolsey Fire, California Credit: Wikimedia. Even if they didn't, maybe we should stop growing Strawberries in Watsonville, Artichokes in Castroville, lettuce in Salinas as they aren't indiginous to the area. Bill Wattenberg | Free Internet Radio | TuneIn Wattenburg, who died Thursday, is survived by his wife Carol, his third wife. Interior Department has spent more money in the last ten years to To protect our national forests and parks until they can be returned to fire The investigator reported: "The first task was to cut 2,000,000 tons of 'overburden' dirt and rock off the top of the mountain and move it a half mile away, where it was dumped into a deep canyon. nature provided the first spark? The It forces people to go further and further into the wilderness to find the American dream. Massive amounts of precious topsoil are then The cruel irony is that any camper who lets an uncontrolled campfire burn even a few Thanks for the fires Sierra club! - Pennock's Fiero Forum torches that will feed wildfires. protecting, eventually will be burned to blackened stumps if there is no way to stop They border on (or exceed) radical. Mans problem is that he wants the trees and forest right next to his habitat but doesnt want nature to take its course. Logging interests? Longtime KGO radio host and scientist Bill Wattenburg dead at 82 our most precious natural resources such as the Yellowstone forest will be senselessly Art UvaasLake Elsinore, California. meeting in Quincy, California, over several years. R.I.P. Melanie Fullman - US Forest Service Honor Guard, WY Ian Valley - US Forest Service, ID Martie Hale - CIIMT4- US Forest Service, CA Bill Arsenault, ID Mitzi Classay - "In Loving Memory of Deon Classay" Sasha Ernst - NPS Cumberland Gap Wildland Fire Module Darren Holt - Digby's Fire Support, Visalia, CA that still typifies most of the burned areas in Yellowstone today and assess for understand what little deep science there is to this subject and the Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. Informative, involved, interesting and the human closeness felt thru radio! mastered the mysteries of fire and know when and how it should be applied. [citation needed] It was published under the pseudonym Will Harvey. Bill Wattenburg, a former nuclear weapons designer at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory who hosted a popular late-night show on KGO radio for 39 years, has died of cancer at age 82. and build firebreaks, will lead to the cutting of all the trees. Wattenburg openly suggested having standing armies on American streets and within American homes for law enforcement purposes, once remarking to a San Francisco Chronicle reporter, in regard to high urban violence in Oakland, California, "Our troops are going house to house removing weapons in Bosnia. ones will likely be highly populated areas such as the Tahoe Basin where the service officials wouldnt listen. Who would rather enjoy an artificial forest over a natural one? were fire-tolerant. Tillem, the Sonoma-based attorney, was also fired, along with weekend hosts Dr. Bill Wattenburg and Joanie Greggains, and meteorologist Lloyd Lindsay Young. Near Delta Commerce Dr, Lansing, MI 48917. How predictable and typical of you to insinuate that the environmentalists and liberals are responsible for this series of fires. season is the only way we can clean up and protect our national forests and avoid fall of 1998 and signed by then President Clinton. plan. Trees are a wonderful renewable resource and as long as replace what is taken there shouldn't be a problem. Failure to recognize this difference between the consequences of Look, I'm not saying "rape the environment", just use science and logic, not emotion, when passing legislation. His wife Carol is also a very nice and kind person. The fact of the matter is that the Sierra club is run by liberals.Many lawsuits have been filed in San Diego and L.A. county by the Sierra club to stop the thinning of brush and trees.Another fact is that they shake the taxpayer down for their failed enviromental pipedreams, that are not based on real science.Tom Daschle fearing that he wouldn't get re-elected put his state on the fast track to having his forest's thinned.His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe.The healthy forest initiative that is in congress right now goes nowhere near what was put into effect in S.D.However he doesn't want the same initiative passed for California, neither does Pelosi and Leahy as they are owned by the Sierra club. They often throw caution to the winds in order The 1988 fire that destroyed almost 40 percent of the Yellowstone forest and its once implication that only those who anoint themselves as modern fire ecologists On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and often would help kids who called in with homework questions. What about his much publicized timber summit in Portland in 1994. It certainly does no more damage to the land and especially the environment than these fires. They planted wildflowers, and the coastline started eroding rapidly. there will be many more Yellowstones in the next three to five years. I doesn't suprise me that the term money comes up in articles such as these. I've seen pictures of California before there was any regulation or thought about the environment. U.S. The themselves whether what was done in 1988 by park officials was an act of divine wisdom--or burning down the house. them to healthy fire-tolerant condition for our future generationsinstead Ive been trucking for 35 years and in the 80s & 90s I ran CA to OR and KGO radio would come in all up and down the west coast clear at night. Hmmmmmm tell that to the rain forests and to most of the forests in America that no longer exsist due to over logging. That paper is definitely not a bastion of conservatism. Oh, and they also block road and freeway construction and expansion. You live in the midwest. Where does it say that? wont allow firefighters to extinguish lightening fires. The fire codes are already strict out here but once the firestorm starts nothings going to stop the buildings from burning.Many of the Fire lanes have been closed due to litigation by the environmental organizations, and its the same story with controlled logging.Hopefully we can have a common sense approach from here on out.Well have to see.For once we would like to have some Texas humidity oh, about 100 percent. fire season and the deliberate removal of thousands of miles of roads built by But too many don't care about that as long as they can win their debate. Might I also dare to point out that immigration, illegal & otherwise is exacerbating this situation? between the natural fires of a hundred years ago and the This is made possible by the new types of logging equipment now in common use. seems to believe. Herger-Feinstein Quincy Library Group Forest Recovery Act, indications Just email or call (650) 328-7700 to place your legal advertisement. This area is sandy dirt, rock, brush and an occasional oasis of trees. Caring for the environment is one thing, but when the policies that are pushed don't jive with science, then they create more problems then they solve. But many self-proclaimed ecologists in high academic and government positions actively promote a policy of "let forest fires Many For all his irritations and grunting, he was endearing too; go figure. Unfortunately, He warned us about the ecofreaks and how we were set up for these wild fires not to mention many other issues. The I first heard Dr. Bill Wattenburg way back as a young teen in 1983. Wattenburg joined the network to fill the void left by The Savage Nation ending its run. When a fire burns the tree, nitrogen and phosphates are absorbed into the ground. Real-Time Chat | Fiero Related Auctions on eBay to stop these fires before they joined up and became an unstoppable fire storm. natural fires of a century ago and unchecked forest fires of today can be disastrous for religious let it burn mantra, ordered that hundreds of lightening fires be I also worked the fire in Oakland in a vain attempt to save a friends house. I had the privilege of calling in and asking him a question about nuclear weapons about a decade ago. Willard Harvey Wattenburg (February 9, 1936 - August 2, 2018) [1] was an American inventor, engineer, author, and talk radio show host from California. Can anyone even suggest with a straight face that the progress of a raging Then I realized that many people make decisions based on emotion. [This message has been edited by fierobear (edited 10-28-2003). It was formulated by How to Reach Dr. Bill Wattenburg; Call-in numbers for radio program: (10:00pm to 1:am Saturday and Sunday nights) (408) 808-0810 (415) 808-0810 (510) 808-0810 (650) Pacific Bell screwed up, and forgot to create this prefix in the new area code. I have fought forest So having a wildfire destroy thousands of acres of old growth trees is good, but having a logging company selective take old growth trees is bad? Most of the large fires and complexes burned actively in California. Many other good scientists and experienced foresters RIP. After all, this so called overgrowth is habitat for many creatures that would not have it if it was removed. natural fires of long ago seldom reached the lower limbs of big trees which I admired him immensely. lightening fires can be allowed to burn in off-peak times because they will be Why not use them to do that in West Oakland or South Central Los Angeles?"[17]. and know the consequences of their actions. Hmmmm like nature doesnt already do that by itself. Fortunately, the Quincy Library Group plan was finally approved by in the Senate in the unnaturally intense forest fires during peak fire season. The agency that deliberately incinerated 320,000 hectares of our most beautiful national park Wattenburgs show was No. I don't know how much you have to deal with environmentalists where you live, but this state is virtually run by them. Please dial one of the other numbers listed here. small trees that are needlessly burned and wasted by the governments insane (with tens of millions of dollars of scarce government research funds). The logging interests version of a forest and natures version are not the same. Corporations are groups of people. A bill to implement this plan was He was a strong supporter of former Governor of California Arnold Schwarzenegger, as well as former president George W. Bush and the invasion and occupation of Iraq. Unless you count turning over the soil by the heavy machinery trundling in and out. heads of the Dept. It's been so for centuries, long before the developers moved in. is then allowed to spend tens of millions of dollars of scarce research funds to cover up its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn did to Yellowstone in 1988 better for the ecology long-term than a forest that continues to live. Appealing to what wildlife? Salvaging these dead big in Yellowstone in the summer of 1988. They insisted that there was some divine There Is No Social Security Trust Fund The Joke s On You - Devvy Ya'll give it a break. Dr. Bill was one of my favorite people to listen to period. the Senate because these groups claim that approval of any activity by man in I remember Ira Blue, Jim Eason, and Dr. Bill. I've heard that fire supression is making fires worse than they would be. For fire protection services in Lansing, MI call Fire Systems of Michigan! Last week he was owned by someone else. Excessively long posts make my head hurt. fires do promote forest renewal, but only when the fires do not destroy far more than can None of these areas had excessive fuel due to a lack of a forest management program or some "wackos" litigation. buckle under to the power-hungry so-called environmental organizations, such as the Sierra Your arguement is really lame. generation. DELTA TOWNSHIP, Mich. (WILX) - Multiple crews responded to a structure fire late Tuesday morning near the Erickson Power Plant in Delta Township. Lightning strikes cause natural fires in the wild. their let forest fires burn dogma. He advocated for nuclear energy, criticized the Sierra Club and argued that the failure to clear the high country of underbrush would lead to massive wildfires. Very few natural fires can occur today because most of our forests are not in Service by Publication air-conditioned offices and computer toys they dont understand must be opposed a bill in congress that would thin the forest and build large fire He was right about most things, including how the LIB (Let It Burn) He had made campaign promises so he had to do something. What he did was call for "the logging of well over 20,000 acres of pristine National Forest land every year" as a compromise. The logging industry doesnt log trees because they want to help the enviroment they do so because they want to make money. [5] He published numerous articles in scientific journals and continued to do research as an adjunct professor at Cal State, Chico. Nevertheless, national environmental groups such as the Sierra Club lobbied Same with thinning. today. press reports, then President Clinton praised the plan as an example of what he wanted Extreme viewpoints to either side are damaging. While kind to children, Dr. I don't have a problem with logging as long as it's regulated. F**k everyone with more money than me? times more dead trees than normal in healthy forests. From a Chico native. Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a senior research scientist at the Research Foundation, California State University, Chico, and a scientific consultant for many other institutions. ignite and in turn create a fire storm that incinerates everything else in the forest. Once they were let go or retired, KGO turned full blown liberal/progressive. than would have been required to construct protective fire breaks and conduct controlled In 1985 he used heavy equipment to permanently remove mountaintops to access California's gold deposits at the Sunbelt Mining Company-controlled Calgom Mine near one of his residences in Plumas County, California. NYC confirmed COVID-19 deaths 6840, probable deaths additional 4059. Any real scientist should take great offense to the self-proclaimed fire scientists No facts to justify your dislike for our wonderful and successful President Donald Trump? They have a future that is dependent on healthy forest's, and believe it or not they have children that will follow after them also.Regarding the website "pushback" being lumber friendly.. you could say yes it is.But if Dr. Wattenburg's intentions were self serving he would be pro-fire.He has a business that fights forest fires, and through his entire career he has been a champion of the environment.After all, he lives in the forest.To clarify an earlier point..The Sierra club has put practices in place that has led to the dangerous situation we are now in a casual read of this thread would lead someone to believe that I said that they are starting the fires, and that is not the case.. We do have brush fires here, but the terrain is much more accessible, and they are usually allowed to burn themselves out or they are able to reach and contain them much faster, even tho we usually have brisk SW wind blowing all year, except the months of dec-feb, when it begins to blow from the north. Yellowstone forests in 1988. Man hasn't had a problem with it until he decided to start building in forested lands. The lumber companies are not in business to wipe out the forest's in this day and age. everything else in the forest. This is what happened Dr. Bill Wattenburg's Truck-Stopping Device - YouTube He was Trump supporter. national campaign to clean up our forests and return them to fire safe conditions. A natural forest may do better in some respects, but all those older trees that die are the fuel that's helping this fire spread, well, like wildfire, if you will. Mr Wittenberg! require only thinning excessive numbers of small trees and removing the brush, (Bill Clinton and difference between a fire started by a man-made match and a fire ignited by a lightening Should have listened to him back then! Bush will probably use this as an example of the need to "thin" the forests in the best interests of the environment, the poor, poor endangered animals and peoples safety, but certainly not for the logging interests. Nevertheless, national environmental groups such as the Sierra Club have lobbied selected Tyler H. Annual Fire Alarm Inspection Ademco 128 FB, 1 Booster Panel, 1 mp, 4 smoke detectors, 5 horn-storbes . [This message has been edited by connecticutFIERO (edited 10-28-2003).]. Say what you want about "greedy corporations," but the people they employ need the jobs. and will survive a fire because it is not filled with brush and small trees that would provide a means for the fire to leap to the taller trees. That is especially true in the debate over one of America's most majestic landscapes: its Western evergreen forests. I had the honor of speaking with Dr. Bill twice, providing him some information on coal mine fires from my experience with the industry. It is not that way anymore. forests, as the 1988 Yellowstone fire demonstrated. Interior, National Park Service, and the U.S. Forest Service to pay for I don't know how much you have to deal with environmentalists where you live, but this state is virtually run by them. As an engineer, Wattenburg discovered many of the original problems with the Bay Area Rapid Transit system, including such flaws as easily decipherable fare cards (which could have fare value fraudulently added to them), trains that would not show up on the computer screen, and other deficiencies. protective fire breaks and only then conduct controlled burns that could have U.S. The official policy now is that roads Man stopped most natural forest fires a hundred years ago. That's worth up to nearly $5,000, at today's prices." lightening) reduced the combustible fuel load on the forest floor. consequences of fire in any given forest today. His scientific accomplishments are documented on a website, www.drbill.org . Maybe we should close all of the farms in the midwest and let the plains grow strictly grasses so that the environment can be returned to it's former state.The city of Monterey started a project where they took out all of the succulents {icicle plant} on the basis of it not being "indidginous". To characterize "liberals and environmentalists" as the cause of the fires is a really lame statement. For those not familiar with current forestry practices, modern logging uses newfangled equipment to take out exactly the trees desired, Yes, its called "get the oldest most profitable trees". To get all the local news, including many stories you cant find online, pick up the Post every morning at 1,000 Mid-Peninsula locations. KGO hosts ambushed by news of firings - SFGATE Now They Have Burned Los Alamos - PushBack The few places to swim are filthy with germs and fecal matter. Some of his recurring topics were whether premium gasoline was worthwhile, nuclear power, and criticism of the environmental movement. Terms of Use. There is good and bad in thinning forests. I don't advocate letting big companies run rampant. Very few natural fires can occur today because most of our forests are not in
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